rr; it's obvious what you posted was after the false prophecies of russell failed. this is all bull$hit, double talk, and clear blamphemy. it's the same pattern leaders of the wt have used even after russell. it's ability to discern when your being jerked. a false prophet is a false prophet , and no matter what ever ,ear tickling babbling bull$hit you try to present the your brain dead sheep. your still a false prophet. and even worst you are now lying to hide your white washed graves of BULL$HIT . to keep the $$$$$$$$$$$ rolling in . wheather it the bible student , the wt or some other group. remember you can polish BULL$HIT from now to dooms day, all the wax in the world will never make it shine in the light of day. john
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Pastor Russell and 1914
by Kenneson in1. russell did not believe that 1914 marked the "beginning of the end" as do jehovah's witnesses.
rather, he pointed to 1799 for that (i.e., see zion's watch tower for nov. 7, 1893, page 24: in commenting on the discovery of the rossetta stone he states: "[the point is that 1799 was the very year beginning the time of the end when many would run to and fro and knowledge be increased.
' dawn, vol iii, chapter ii--editor]" .
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Pastor Russell and 1914
by Kenneson in1. russell did not believe that 1914 marked the "beginning of the end" as do jehovah's witnesses.
rather, he pointed to 1799 for that (i.e., see zion's watch tower for nov. 7, 1893, page 24: in commenting on the discovery of the rossetta stone he states: "[the point is that 1799 was the very year beginning the time of the end when many would run to and fro and knowledge be increased.
' dawn, vol iii, chapter ii--editor]" .
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johnny cip
ty ken; whats amazing is when i bring any of this stuff up to a jw. they tell me it's all lies. even after i got them to say they have read the time is at hand etc. it's so easy to make a jw lie their ass off , and show how little they know. the best part is they are not even willing to go to the kh library and look it up. talk about living in darkness... john
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crucifixation or upright stake
by cakes inhi everyone, i'm new :) i know jesus died on an upright stake and not a cross but i don't know where to find the info on where or when the idea of the crucifixation orginated from.
can someone help me on this please?
thanks in advanced :)
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johnny cip
i have the 1946/52 wt book let god be true; and it says jesus died on a cross. this book even says jesus is to be worshipped. i would guess fred franz wrote the book. so it would seem they still believed in the cross at least till 1952. john
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jw invests $$$$$$$$$ and time into opening a gay bar/rest.
by johnny cip ina few years ago my brother in law a chef, was looking into opening a gay bar /restraurant.
non jw .. my dad a total wt zombie was helping him out looking for a place, speaking with landlords, atty's etc.
this went on for about 2 years.
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a few years ago my brother in law a chef, was looking into opening a gay bar /restraurant. non jw .. my dad a total wt zombie was helping him out looking for a place, speaking with landlords, atty's etc. this went on for about 2 years. what i did know at first was this was to be a GAY HANGOUT. and just fround out that my jw dad gave him $70,000 to help him open this gay club. and they lost a bunch of $$$$$$ to some scam lawyers and landlords, trying to get a lease. my question is not only did my jw dad use his whole life savings (thaqt is to be split 5 ways) but what kind of a christian (who acts holier than thou) doing getting involved in a gay homosexual enterprise? with my big mouth and a fews of my sisters calling the kh lets see if dad gets df'ed?
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JW Wrongdoers Unable To Pray?
by Englishman in.
my dad, who was po of several different largish congregations at varying times, sat on a number of jc's during his lifetime.. he maintained that alleged wrongdoers confessed to being unable to pray to jehovah between committing the actual sin and appearing before a jc.. he told me that this was invariably the case and that confessing wrongdoers felt a great sense of relief after appearing before a jc because they were able to pray once more.. totally unable to pray..psychological, perhaps?.
englishman.
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johnny cip
english man; i think your dad is using the wt teaching that jehovah only hears the prays of jw's . maybe someone can post that wt. it's not too old. john
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crucifixation or upright stake
by cakes inhi everyone, i'm new :) i know jesus died on an upright stake and not a cross but i don't know where to find the info on where or when the idea of the crucifixation orginated from.
can someone help me on this please?
thanks in advanced :)
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johnny cip
there was a documentry on pbs a few years ago were this college professor. did tests on the stake or cross theory. he would put college students on a stake with specially made gloves and boots to hold them in place. on the experiments with the stake the sudents would pass out in 3-15 minutes. something to do with being able to breath, in that position. were as on the cross they could stay there for hours or days. just watching that on t.v. told me the romans wouldn't use a stake as the suffering would be short. anyone else saw that show? john
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VICTORY FOR MY CHILDREN OVER THE JW'S!
by Corvin invictory!
the court appointed attorney will be recommending to the judge the following at the hearing tomorrow morning.
unsupervised visits with mom at the children?s request only, away from her home and away from stepfather.
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Corvin; this wasn't a win . it's a landslide. the best part being your kids call when and were they visit and what is said and done at such visits. since your x wife sounds like a conpletely brain dead wt zombie, i give her less than a month to violate the order about preaching. that will be interesting , to see what the judge does in nov. i know she will'nt be able to keep her mouth shut. for your hard work you get to expose the wt for what they are once a week , and your x has to listen to it. reap what you sow. comes to mind here. so now the shoe is on the other foot. i caqn see it now she going to make a fool of her self in theropy. and you will have all the wt articles to prove she's a liar. that's your reward, to force her to a study once a week. who knows she may be posting here in 6 monthslol. boy that judge took all the wind out of the wt sails in your family. just hope your girls make out o.k. john ps just thinking your at sessions and the subject come up about jehovah killing all non jw's or god only here's the prayers of jw's etc. and of course your x says they never teached that, and you say it's right here in the sept 15 wt. she calls you a liar again, then the theropist says she wants to see the bound volume. next week . with stuff like this happening week in and week out. at least you will get the satisfaction you were right all along . and you can just sit there with glee and she melts in the chair.
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SHOW DOWN TODAY
by Corvin intoday, i am taking the girls to meet with the court appointed attorney.
he will interview the girls and me together, then he will interview sara and the girls together.
it is his recommendation to the judge that will decide the outcome of this custody battle.
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corvin' the only good defense4 with a jw , is a stronger orfense spelling? you have to show these zombie NO QUARTER. or you will lose. many here can't see how to handle jw's but i understand i do it all the time . it's so easy to make liars out of them etc. and make them stumble, the questions is who's watching you blow them out . an elder an other jw ? NO . IT'S VERY INTELLEGENT PEOPLE . who have real world reasoning abilities. why do you think 99.9% of the public slam the door on jw's. they can see right through the bullshit. i'm sure the judge wears knee high boots, to walk tho all the bull he has heard. if some welfare mother of 12 kids can see tho the wt , i'm sure the judge can. keep your cool!!! and keep away from the KINgdum hall . for now. till they f-ck with you , at that point i would either bring them into the courts or call them out on a personal level. you are doing great . it's going your way i feel it ... johnny
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Where can I find old "Golden Age", "Consolation", "Awake!" mags?
by Quotes indoes anyone know if there is a cd-rom of old "golden age", "consolation", "awake!
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yes, i know that randy's freeminds site has old watchtowers on cd, and purchased many a gem that way.
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rr; how far does the raines cd go? how bad is it? could you send me a copy? i'll pay. sound like you gave away a $$$$$ maker if you had it all on film? it would really be great to see if your friend can come up with it. i've read lots from kens site, some wild stuff. some is almost unbelievable... what your ideas on what he's brought out? honest taken out of context etc. john
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Where can I find old "Golden Age", "Consolation", "Awake!" mags?
by Quotes indoes anyone know if there is a cd-rom of old "golden age", "consolation", "awake!
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yes, i know that randy's freeminds site has old watchtowers on cd, and purchased many a gem that way.
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rr i would love to get mhy hands on that one. let us all know if and when it comes out.,..............................................................................................QUOTES ; at the JW RESEARCH SITE OFF THE FREEMINDS LINK PAGE. ken rains the owner of that site , was selling a cd of about half of the years of the golden age. he's your best bet. sorry i didn't order the cd when he was offering it a few years ago. if you pm me i have his address still. i would love to get one... john p.s. i remember when i was doing research at the 42 st library. i asked for golden age mag's , if i remember correctly they looked it up on an nation wide computer. and told me they were all in micro film at some college library in the state of mass. if you don't get any results from ken raines, try your local county head public library and ask them to do a nation wide search.. let me know how you make out i'm very interested... john